Deep One Bull

So apparently the running theme with Innsmouth's enemies, specifically those with the Deep One trait, is that they do bad stuff when they engage with you. This is not very nice, especially for those of us who enjoy using evasion as a reliable countermeasure. This one compounds that problem by making him creep towards you if there are any Deep Ones you do need to kill. Discarding cards is bad because cards win games, and while it is by choice instead of randomly (thank goodness), this guy will still hit you for a solid 2 damage while you do try to fight him, unless you have the capability to take him out in one round- which is not at all guaranteed, especially in the early scenarios he shows up in. 4 fight is rough. 5 health is a lot- even a full round of attacks with most level 0 weapons, assuming you land every hit, will only just be enough to kill him. And, to top all of that off, this thing DOESN'T HAVE VICTORY. There's only one of him in his set of I believe 6 cards, but still! Having to face this guy more than once is just bad times.

All of that is to say, William Yorick is the perfect countermeasure to Deep One Bull, because of two major reasons. A. Yorick can fight and tank really well. His recursion also makes him hurt less from the discard by engagement (take "Let me handle this!" to make sure it goes to him). But even better than that is B, which stands for Bury Them Deep. Yes, for some reason, Deep One Bull is non-Elite. And sure, that means there's other really strong countermeasures here for the more evade savvy among us. You have Waylay, and Slip Away, and what have you. But honestly? I would just bury this guy as deep as you can.

StyxTBeuford · 13049
Or if you don't have Yorick in your team, put some handcuffs on him. — TheNameWasTaken · 3
Yes, that's the one, I'm sure. Cuff him! — StyxTBeuford · 13049
Usually, the Bulls are not the ones in handcuffs.... — LivefromBenefitSt · 1084
ayyyyyyyy — StyxTBeuford · 13049
Could luke robinson be a counter to this kind of effect? He uses a card as if engaged with enemies but as with zoey's cross and massive enemies there isn't actually a point where he becomes engaged to the enemy — Donel · 13
Luke would work this way. If you’re killing anybody from the dreamlands, this guy is going to stay in place. In very tricky scenarios, you can even move this guy towards you but away from the enemy you killed. — MrGoldbee · 1487
Does the enemy effect trigger when i use an engage action? — Andrej553 · 1
Yes, spending an action to engage an enemy or an enemy engaging you is the same from a rules perspective. — Django · 5154
Cryptographic Cipher

This card feels similar to fingerprint kit though a good bit worse. It slightly accelerates your clue gathering at the expense of a hand slot and a fairly pricey asset. This makes you take more tests and increases the difficulty of one of those tests instead of making it easier. I already don't use fingerprint kit much because of the high cost, though I think it can be good especially if reloaded with Emergency Cache (3). Will be curious to see if this receives any upgraded versions because as is it's quite lackluster. I'm very unsure why the second ability even exists if not for an upgraded version to make it much better (like setting the shroud to 0).

dubcity566 · 111
Fingerprint Kit can also be Contrabanded — Zinjanthropus · 230
This exists because the free action combines with Trish Scarborough's ability, allowing her to evade a monster engaged with her in a free action. If you're looking at this as basically another way to increase your clue-get by 1 each turn, it's cheaper fingerprint kit (side note, there are plenty of ways to reload secrets as well as supplies). If you're getting more value out of a free investigate action, this is probably better. — SGPrometheus · 841
The second ability is there to ensure you can still get clues the sub optimal way if necessary. If you're suffering a debuff or something, you can use it like a flashlight and not have to slow down so hard. The first ability is amazing though! It does make the test harder, but if you succeed, that's a clue and an action you didn't have before. And as people have mentioned, it's great with Trish to get the auto evade, thereby bypassing the AoO. — LaRoix · 1646
First ability would also allow Alice Luxley to do a damage as a free action, which might clear the location for further investigates. — Time4Tiddy · 249
The second ability can also combo nicely with Lola Santiago, as you can buy another extra clue at a 2 resources discount. — jamalix · 1
Carolyn Fern

I have a question about the card slots during upgrading. Carolyn Fern is permitted 15 Seeker/Mystic cards that are non-healing. At the start of a campaign, let's say you choose 15 cards.

After Scenario 1, you spend 2 XP to buy two copies of Ancient Stone. The unidentified version does not say "heal horror", so am I correct that we need to remove 2 of our 15 non-healing Seeker/Mystics cards to add the stones to our deck?

If yes, then once we identify the Ancient Stone, and we then upgrade them to the Ancient Stone, since these have "heal horror" text, then we are now have only 13 of our 15 Seeker/Mystic card slots filled. We have 2 slots available again, yes?

If that's the case, what 1xp Seeker/Mystic card do you recommend to fill that space? Since 0xp cards still cost 1xp when you add them to a deck during a campaign, it feels bad to spend xp on a level 0 card. I'm curious to hear what the community has to say.

VanyelAshke · 181
The Seeker or Mystic tarot card is an option, depending on whether you have a clue-gathering Intel build (Seeker tarot) or a spell-slinging Willpower build (Mystic tarot) — VanyelAshke · 181
Forewarned seems appealing if you want extra copies of "Ward of Protection"-like effect. Or maybe "Pathfinder" for extra movement. Even with the Taboo list, Pathfinder is still a level 1 card. — VanyelAshke · 181
Hmm... 2x copies of "Protective Incantation" might be an option. If she has one Arcane slots open, then she can seal either the negative token that will cause a failure (-5, -8) or the worst BS token of that scenario. With Ancient Stones, her economy is strong so she can afford to pay 1 resource per turn. Is this worth it? — VanyelAshke · 181
My interpretation would be the same as how exile cards work. If you exile a card and don't repurchase it, then you replace it with a free level 0 card because your deck is short the required number of cards if not. So if your case, the higher level ancient stones causes your deck to be short the required number of cards, this you fill the void with free level 0 cards. — jdk5143 · 98
@jdk5143 What required number of cards? Carolyn doesn't have a minimum number of seeker cards, and all levels of Ancient Stone count towards your deck size. I don't think the exile analogy applies here. — TheNameWasTaken · 3
Merp. Good point. Basic counting is important. — jdk5143 · 98
Lita Chantler

Spoilers for the core campaign below: After scouring both here and on FFG's site, I've made a bizarre discovery that seems to have gone unnoticed: nowhere in the rules are you instructed to remove Lita from your deck in Resolution 3 of the last scenario. You know, the one where you literally throw her into the maw of a dimension-eating god. There's even a bullet that instructs you to write down that you sacrificed her, which seems like the perfect place to have something like, "Remove Lita Chantler from each investigator's deck; you have no longer earned that card, shame on you."

I checked the action that sacrifices her, the resolution, the FAQ and errata, and found nothing. Obviously she's dead... but she's still in my deck? It's a weird oversight for something so old.

SGPrometheus · 841
Or YOU are Umôrdhoth. — MrGoldbee · 1487
It's not that weird an oversight when the rules had no intention of your deck ever being used again after reaching the end of the campaign. End of campaign trauma and campaign log recordings is just intended to modify the campaign log that you can have for posterity as a souvenir from your adventure. — Death by Chocolate · 1489
Maybe Umôrdhoth lets her participate in a work release program from its ghastly innards? I don't heear of many people playing a second campaign with the same investigators, and it's probably less for the trauma (you could do TFA second and make use of the trauma healing in one of the interludes, as a) there are a lot of investigators who are fun to play, so at the end of a campaign I'm usually looking for the next deck, but also, even if Dunwich was the first campaign, by halfway through the second you will be well and truly out of upgrade options in most cases. — LivefromBenefitSt · 1084
Work release program! That's priceless. It's as you say, though: we're probably going to be out of upgrades by the end of Dunwich. Or maybe not; one of us is a Mystic and one is a Guardian, so there's a million things to buy. In any case, if one 'gator dies/goes insane, we'll probably just swap out and continue on for as long as possible. — SGPrometheus · 841
Déjà Vu

Not a review, but a question. If you exile 3x 1XP cards during scenario 2, and then purchase this between scenario 2 and 3, are you allowed to immediately buy back those cards without paying the XP cost?

EDIT: Another question - if you have two of these, will they reduce the cost of 6 cards by 1XP each, or also 3 cards by 2XP each?

I do feel that this card is possibly 1XP too expensive as it really relies on you having to go all-in with exile cards to get enough value from it, and you still have to pay 1XP for Fortune or Fate and Stroke of Luck.

ilksvorbern · 75
I see no reason why not. There is no timing restriction on refilling your deck before buying cards - it just needs to be a legal deck by the time you start the next scenario. — Death by Chocolate · 1489
I vaguely recall an FAQ entry for adaptable indicating that this was not legal, i.e., you couldn't swap two cards at the same time that you buy it, which would seem to be relevant here. But now I can't find the FAQ entry. — SGPrometheus · 841
You can definitely swap two cards after buying Adaptable while still between scenarios. You are probably thinking about the FAQ for Arcane Research (or Charon's Obol) since they have a timing condition at the end of a scenario and thus only give a benefit if you have them when the previous scenario ends. Déjà Vu, like Adaptable, has no such condition. — Death by Chocolate · 1489
Thank you! — ilksvorbern · 75
If you have two Deja Vu, you can distribute the cost reduction any way you like, nothing stops them from working on the same card (or on different cards). — suika · 9511